andrew hill trio part1

There is a pulse that these guys are playing contrapuntally against as well as the form of the tune. Hill's music demanded a lot from his players.A favorite device of his is playing 3 against 4/4 meter with little incremental rhythmic shadings. So the groove is there it just plays out against an unstated beat (like most african music). But then again, you don't have to love it. I'm not a huge Randy Weston fan, although I recognize that he is great-I just don't connect too well with his music.

I have the same feeling as you, I want to love it, but it's so damn hard to enjoy. I can't enjoy concepts if there's any. How can I 'dig' this music...?

i have to say that since i made those comments i have listened to "But Not Farewell" from 1990 and found it quite enjoyable, and as some stuff from the 60's. However, it doesn't sound like this.

Man is this great stuff! Andrew was one of those musicians that seemed to come from some place else entirely-totally unique. I can't think of any contemporary performer who has the whole package of soul, technique, vision and composing like this man had.A musician for the ages. What a loss to music...

wow i love andrew hill it sounds like the most beautiful song ever swirling down a drain. in a really really good way

It's "outside" music. Tyner and Hancock are "inside" players. Stick with it, but stop trying so hard. Buy Timelines and listen without preconceptions. It's a taste that has to be cultivated like appreciating a fine wine.

thanks, i'm determined to give Mr. Hill more of a chance-- he's played w/ Joe Henderson and Eric Dolphy, both of whom I love right now, i'm listening to "But Not Farewell" from 1990 and enjoying it

Start with the 60s Blue Note recordings! Try Passing Ships, Black Fire, and Point of Departure. But Not Farewell is fine but it is not prime Andrew Hill.

I will definitely have to listen to those recordings! Thanks again.

i think there must be grooves i can't hear-- i wish someone could point them out to me