14 Bis - The WORLD FIRST EVER AIRPLANE IN FLIGHT

No discuss what! Here in Russia, Alemanha.Japão, China, France England, and in most countries of the world, know that the inventor of the airplane was a Brazilian! Only the head and manipulated American nationalist who were those such Brothers! Since the plane was played them and not even left the ground! Long live the Brazilian inventors of the airplane!

putting who did what first aside the provided video does not provide positive proof that the fore mention design worked since it appears the engine used in the video is a modern engine which would not only have more power but also weigh much much less then motors of the period.

14 Bis - The WORLD FIRST EVER AIRPLANE IN FLIGHT

Portuguese are Afro-Americans? My God, can you be any more ignorant? You have heard of Europeans, have you not? And, by the way, what if they were? Would there be a problem? Shame on your racism. Shame on your ignorance. Please fix the American public school system so that the white trash can have better education (BTW: I am white). It's no use when you are such a rich nation with such a high throughput of ignoramuses. Are we suppose to discuss the history of aviation with YOU ?!

Oh, catapults are used on aircrafts that are jet engines! Before they made that, somebody had to make a machine that was able to take-off and land independently of any device, that did not depend on specific topographic and wind conditions and whose claims could be independently verified. Those criteria were not met by the Wright bros. The fact is US Americans would never accept the reverse: two Brazilians bros claim to have flown but nobody saw it. Who is nationalistic?

warp13 the design that was copied did not make into 14 Bis but Demoiselle. The Wright brothers copied airfoils. So? They all knew about eacch other's work, your point being ? The Wright brothers were challenged to publicly display their claims in Paris, in front of their peers and refused. Santos-Dumont was a very wealthy man and he had the guts to show to everyone what he claimed. 14 Bis flew 6 m high for 220 m from an independent take-off, w/out catapult w/out frontal wind. Parisians saw it.

Dream-The Wrights and Dumont had different protocols, that has been discussed. The Wrights at the time of the first invitation, were awaiting their patent. The Wright's early flights 1903 852 ft. and the early 1904 season were without catapult. They flew a complete circle in 1904. The catapult provided the necessary airspeed for the limited space with an under powered engine. When they used longer rails the same result was achieved. Guts had nothing to do with it.

Here's a video that shows what sort of wind conditions and heights you find at the Kitty Hawk dunes: watch?v=PzVw_TTnSrQ Pay attention to the sound of wind against the mike - very, very strong wind. Highly debatable that a craft that needed such wind was capable of autonomous flight... Now some Americans (I suppose) here on Utube are claiming that the real question was control! The real question was autonomous flight and it doesn't look to me the Wright bros did it first given the evidence.

I have learned more about Brazillians from this exchange than I have learned about Santos Dumont or the Wright Brothers.

Deep-Yes I was aware of that fact, but thanks for mentioning it. It was the Bleriot-Voisin Company that was very unsuccessful and the men parted ways, both eventually became successful in their own right. I refer to Dumont because he received all of the credit.