Blackbox - 03 - Crash Detectives - Part 1 of 5

Actually mate there are more commercial train crashes every year than plane crashes

Well, "mate", where do you get that from?

Well im not an idiot for starters, also i've found a oage that proves this however youtube won't let me paste the link. (taken from an article about air traffic's increase on the bbc website) "However, UK airline operations are among the safest anywhere. When compared against all other modes of transport on a fatality per mile basis air transport is the safest - six times safer than travelling by car and twice as safe as rail."

Well, you've really strengthened your argument, with your not being an idiot and all, which is reassuring. I wouldn't trust the BBC on "UK airline operations" as far as I could drag them over a bed of rusty nails.

Never mind challenging everyone else - you made the comment, you back it up.

I just did. Assertions by industry as to how safe industry is aren't reassuring, and neither are studies paid for by industry. But live in a fool's paradise if you want.

No you didn't. You just said why the industry shouldn't be believed. You've said nothing to back up your claim that air travel is not statistically the safest form of transport. Nor have said why its a fool's paradise.

I did not say that air trabel was not statistically the safest form of transport. I said the claim was not to be believed, since those who make (and defend) such claims have a vested interest in doing so.

That's defensible, but that's not what you originally said. You said the claim wasn't true. It can still be true, even if the industry is not credible.

Well, I could quote what I said, but I'll paraphrase: I don't think it's true. And it may be true even if the industry is not credible, but I'll wait until some credible source comes up with some proof.