Miracles of the Quran 4

nisrene my question is before "Bukhari" came, which quran were people following??? please chech the hadith below :) Abu Baseer reported that he said to Imam Ja'far, "O Abu Abdullah(Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq) What is Mus-haf Fatimah" He replied "It is a Qur'an containing three times what is found in your copy of the Qur'an; yet by Allah, it does not contain even a single letter from your Qur'an. ( AlKafi vol.1 p.457)

Or was Allah's inspiration of the Quran to Mohammad(PBUH) incomplete until Bukhari came to write about the Prophet? That is what your asking people to believe by saying Hadith is true? So just like the Christians decided the Bible was not upto date and created various testaments and additions as and when?

I can see you feel strongly, firstly of course obey the Prophet(PBUH). But lets say I believe in Hadith; does that mean all the people who followed Quran after the death of the Prophet(PBUH)were going wrong until "Bukhari" came along 200years later and wrote down the first Hadith?

You can't deny Hadith because it was written 200 years after Moh, because if you go down that route then you also have to deny the Koran as the oldest copy of Koran (Samarkand Manuscript) is also 200 later than Moh. Moreover Koran doesn't explain the Koran. i.e. 1) Why you do Wudu when word Wudu is not even in the Koran. 2) Koran talks about 3 times a day prayer, while you pray 5 times a day. 3) Sura 80:1-10 doesn't tell us anything about this blind man, and why Mohammad frowned at him?

Well if Koran is the Truth then it also makes it an obligation to obey the Prophet, belief in him demands it. Confirmation of what he brought (Koran)requires obedience to him because this is part of what he brought. Allâh says, "O you who believe, obey Allâh and His Messenger ... " (Koran 8:20, 24:54, 3:132, 24:54, 4:79, 59:7, 4:68, 4:63). You can't obey Moh. without knowing his Sunnah, which you find only in Hadith Sira. So you can't avoid Hadith, as it expalins Koran Sunnah!!!

The Quran is the truth- it is the word of Allah and it needs no explanation or any additions, it is simple clear to understand. Hadith is the word of man, written 200years after the death of the Prophet(PBUH) so how could those men know what the Prophet(PBUH) did or did not do??? Most of us cannot remember where we put our car keys let alone anything else?

Arab Prophet! Glory be to TRIUNE God! U are rocking :)

alternativethinker it was good to talk to you :) and please do not asume that i hate,,, i do not hate you. we were just having conversation in a friendly way and all of us have our own opinions and we respect each other. secondly, why didn't you ever heard these things in this way??? answer is, we need to take off our glasses we are wearing to see the things from different angle. best regards and bump into you again some other time :)

i say i never heard that as muslikm how yu heard that. all the nefative things that yu bring forward. has yu really any good intention? orvyu ant to make islam black but certainly if that was the case hen yur aim is spoiled. we do not buy that. and if he beat his wife then he did not kill her right? in hooland hey murdertheir wife again. . i want to terminate my conversation with you. live with yur believ i live and love islam yu can hate me but i do not hate yu. .bye

alternativethinker you are saying that muhammad never beated his wife,,, and i gave you refrence from hadith and you are saying this is false accusation??? what are you trying to say, that hadith is false?? just check this hadith at your own ... He (Muhammad) struck me (Aisha) on the chest which caused me pain ... (Muslim: book 4, number 2127)