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This is a tribute to the USS Saratoga CV-60, Attack Squadron 35 (VA-35) The Black Panthers and the A-6 Intruder.
Stop by my blog: http://disgruntledtruckdriver.typepad.com
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For 34 long years from 1963 to 1997, the INTRUDER was at the sharp end of the America's Navy and Marine Corps carrier-based strike force. Parallel cockpits and twin engines gave this fighter its distinctive form, which has been immaculately recreated in 1:22.5 scale. The same ducted fan unit as the DF55 produces powerful thrust for true jet-like flight. With its high-wing style and comparatively longer main wing span, the INTRUDER not only remains true to the original characteristics, but also delivers amazingly stable flight. As the best introduction to electric jet airplane flight, this airplane is ideally suited to intermediate-level fliers. The lightweight design features a durable styrene fuselage and is almost completely assembled and equipped with three micro-servos for the pre-installed ailerons (x 2) and elevator. Simply attach the main wing halves, install the fan into the ducted unit, set the linkage rods and apply decals to finish |
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The Grumman A-6 Intruder and Prowler in action with the US Navy and Marine Corps. |
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Now Available at www.bariqatlantic.com - Realistic scale reproduction in form and flight performance. |
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Downloadable in high quality at http://www.jaggyroadfilms.com
http://www.screenshotartist.co.uk
New series of video review previews made by Jaggyroad Films. These videos accompany reviews done by the fine folks at the Screenshot Artist website! |
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The crew ejects as they miss the arrestor cables on an aircraft carrier. Feel free to give more info on this mishap. |
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The EA-6B Prowler is a twin-engine, mid-wing aircraft manufactured by Northrop Grumman Aerospace Corporation as a modification of the basic A-6 Intruder airframe.
Type Electronic attack
Manufacturer Northrop Grumman Aerospace
Maiden flight 25 May 1968
Introduced July 1971
Primary users United States Navy
United States Marine Corps
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Kyosho A6 intruder jet electrique livré avec turbine, moteur controleur, et 3 micro servos.
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My second movie! :P
This on is like my first, I'm using the A-6 Intruder again, but not alphasim this time, razbam, because it works with FSX carrier! :D It is a very nice plane, and I suggest to buy it, if you like carrier flight ^^
I appeciate commets, feedback etc.
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Suck is not a very scientific term, as it implies the guy was pulled into the engine. The true physics is the higher relative outside pressure pushed in the man. |
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Archive footage product no longer available at www.otherlandtoys.co.uk |
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Danny Glover (Lethal Weapon) plays Commander Frank Camparelli, the battle-hardened squadron leader of an aircraft carrier during the Vietnam War. Brad Johnson (Always) is pilot Jake Grafton, a disillusioned young renegade looking for payback. Willem Dafoe (Spiderman) is Cole, the cynical, hell-bent bombardier Grafton recruits to fly an unauthorized mission behind enemy lines. The target: a missile depot in Hanoi. The plane: the A-6 Intruder, a low-altitude bomber with no defensive weapons. The risk: court-martial at the hands of Commander Campareli... if they live to return. |
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http://www.aviationlive.org Online Aviation Pics,Videos and Forum
The A-6 Intruder is an American twin jet-engine, mid-wing attack aircraft built by Grumman Aerospace. In service between 1963 and 1997, the Intruder was designed as an all-weather replacement for the piston-engined A-1 Skyraider medium attack aircraft. A specialized electronic warfare derivative, the EA-6B Prowler, remains in service as of 2007. As the A-6 was slated for retirement, its precision strike mission was taken over by the now retired F-14 Tomcat equipped with LANTIRN, which has subsequently passed on the role to the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. |
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Best international YS Flight exhibition team ever
Song: "DREAMS" by Van Halen
Planes:
VF-01 Veritech Fighter
A-6 Intruder
F-5 Tiger II
F/A-18 Hornet (Blue Angels Pack)
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VF-01 Team
Patrick (United States)
Josemarie (United States)
Nikko (China)
Jamal (Yemen)
Mike (Canada)
Miguel (Mexico)
F-5 and F/A-18 Team
Patrick (United States)
Jojo (Philippines)
Jamal (Yemen)
A-6 Team
Patrick (United States)
Mike (Canada)
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A-10 Thunderbolt II ejection, note seat almost hits parachute and pilot on the rebound. F-100 Super Saber?; in a version of coffin corner. AV-8 hover, last second ejection, but too late. F-102 Delta Dagger?; Emergency landing without nose gear. A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder. U-2 nose gear jam.
Good subject; poor video quality. Most of the films were shot using old-fashioned equipment, sometimes over exposed and washed out, under great vibration. The film and tapes were not that good quality when I got them and over the decades age and EM has deteriorated them some, and some quality was lost digitizing the recordings.
This real thing, not Hollyweird.
Most of the montage footage I posted is available, that has been better stored and has been enhanced and edited using high-end professional equipment and a lot of time. They have done an excellent job in restoring much of the footage
The footage is in different order and has different music, however it has much of the same footage.
There is a digital preview available at the link. I am not affiliated with the web site.
http://rareaviation.com/store/catalog/product_3353_Breathtaking_Military_Crash_Videos_cat_1032.html |
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A-6 Intruder, hard landing, knocks off wheel; has to go around and land with damaged gear. Tanker refuels F-14, fuel hose fails, showered with fuel. Midair with F-15. F2H Banshee (or F9F Panther) short carrier landing. Prototype F-14 with hydraulic leak, controls fail, pilot ejects, plane crashes, pilots parachute drop into flames, but updraft from flames takes (not shown) crew to safety. Emergency landing of an F-16 with gear up. Cock pit view of a near miss or a hit with a J-3 Piper Cub. B-52 lands without any significant vertical stabilizer.
Even with No Tail, B-52 'Finest I Ever Flew,' Says Pilot
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b52-strat/b52_50th/story3.htm
08 May 1975 01568 YF-16A
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Belly landed on a grass area next to the runway at Carswell AFB, Texas. Aircraft was only slightly damaged, but never flew again. It was scheduled to appear at the Paris air show but due to the mishap the first prototype was sent.
http://www.f-16.net/news_article1979.html
Good subject; poor video quality. Most of the films were shot using old-fashioned equipment, sometimes over exposed and washed out, under great vibration. The film and tapes were not that good quality when I got them and over the decades age and EM has deteriorated them some, and some quality was lost digitizing the recordings.
This real thing, not Hollyweird.
Most of the montage footage I posted is available, that has been better stored and has been enhanced and edited using high-end professional equipment and a lot of time. They have done an excellent job in restoring much of the footage
The footage is in different order and has different music, however it has much of the same footage.
There is a digital preview available at the link. I am not affiliated with the web site.
http://rareaviation.com/store/catalog/product_3353_Breathtaking_Military_Crash_Videos_cat_1032.html |
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A-1 Skyraider A-4 Skyhawk A-6 Intruder A-7 Corsair II C-1 Trader C-2 Greyhound EA-1 Skyraider E-2 Hawkeye EC-121 Warning Star F-4 Phantom F-8 Crusader F-14 Tomcat P-2 Neptune RA-5 Vigilante S-2 Tracker
The first operational deployment of the Tomcat occurred in September of 1974 aboard USS Enterprise. The deployment took the first two Tomcat squadrons to Vietnam where they flew CAP covering the evacuation of South Vietnam. No aerial encounters with North Vietnamese aircraft were recorded. |
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Many v. Many, featuring the A-4F Super Fox, F-14 Tomcat, A-6 Intruder, SU-27, and a MiG29 Fulcrum airplane crash.
The Skyhawk was designed by Douglas' Ed Heinemann in response to a US Navy call for a jet-powered attack aircraft to replace the A-1 Skyraider. Heinemann opted for a design that would minimize size, weight and complexity. The result was an aircraft that weighed only half of the Navy's specification and had a wing so compact that it did not need to be folded for carrier stowage. The diminutive Skyhawk soon received the nicknames "Scooter," "Bantam Bomber," "Tinker Toy Bomber," and, on account of its nimble performance, "Heinemann's Hot-Rod."
VA-81 A4D-2 on the USS Forrestal in 1962.
The aircraft is of conventional post-World War II design, with a low-mounted delta wing, tricycle undercarriage, and a single turbojet engine in the rear fuselage, with intakes on the fuselage sides. The tail is of cruciform design, with the horizontal stabilizer mounted above the fuselage. Armament consisted of two 20 mm Colt Mk 12 cannon, one in each wing root, with 200 rounds per gun, plus a large variety of bombs, rockets and missiles carried on a hardpoint under the fuselage centerline and hardpoints under each wing (originally one per wing, later two).
The design of the A-4 is a good example of the virtues of simplicity. The choice of a delta wing, for example, combined speed and maneuverability with a large fuel capacity and small overall size, thus not requiring folding wings, albeit at the expense of cruising efficiency. The leading edge slats are designed to drop automatically at the appropriate speed by gravity and air pressure, saving weight and space by omitting actuation motors and switches. Similarly the main undercarriage did not penetrate the main wing spar, designed so that when retracted only the wheel itself was inside the wing and the undercarriage struts were housed in a fairing below the wing. The wing structure itself could be lighter with the same overall strength and the absence of a wing folding mechanism further reduced weight. This is the opposite of what can often happen in aircraft design where a small weight increase in one area leads to a compounding increase in weight in other areas to compensate, leading to the need for more powerful, heavier engines and so on in a tight, vicious cycle.[1][2][3]
The A-4 pioneered the concept of "buddy" self air-to-air refueling. This allows the aircraft to supply others of the same type, eliminating the need of dedicated tanker aircraft - a particular advantage for small air arms or when operating in remote locations. A designated supply A-4 would mount a center-mounted "buddy store", a large external fuel tank with a hose reel in the aft section and an extensible drogue refueling bucket. This aircraft was fuelled up without armament and launched first. Attack aircraft would be armed to the maximum and given just enough fuel allowable by maximum take-off weight limits. Once airborne, they would then proceed to top up their fuel tanks from the tanker using the A-4's fixed re-fueling probe on the starboard side of the aircraft nose. They could then sortie with both full armament and fuel loads. While rarely used in US service since the KA-3 Skywarrior tanker became available, the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet includes this capability, with a view to the imminent retirement of dedicated tankers.
The A-4 was also designed to be able to make an emergency landing, in the event of a hydraulic failure, on the two drop tanks nearly always carried by these planes. Such landings resulted in only minor damage to the nose of the aircraft which could be repaired in less than an hour. Ed Heinemann is credited with having a large "K.I.S.S." sign put up on the wall of the drawing office when the aircraft was being designed. Whether this is true, the A-4 certainly is a shining example of the application of that principle to aircraft design. The Navy issued a contract for the type on 12 June 1952, and the first prototype first flew on 22 June 1954. Deliveries to Navy and US Marine Corps squadrons commenced in late 1956.
The Skyhawk remained in production until 1979, with a total of 2,960 aircraft built, including 555 two-seat trainers. |
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A-1 Skyraider A-3 Skywarrior m A-6 Intruder A-7 Corsair II C-1 Trader C-2 Greyhound EA-1 Skyraider E-2 Hawkeye EA-6B Prowler F-4 Phantom F-8 Crusader F-14 Tomcat S-2 Tracker S-3 Viking RA-5 Vigilante Pensacola NAS |
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Thousands of miles out to sea - a night instrument approach and landing during Nimitz class aircraft carrier operations - one of the most demanding tasks in all of aviation. Any night trap is a challenge, but a generator failure made the pass and this vid a little more interesting (hardly by design).
Voice was wired directly from the oxygen mask. The dimly lit ship is barely a speck beginning about three miles. Warning tones are (1) radar altimeter (set to 1200' and 375') and (2) a rapid warning tone from the radar altimeter due to a generator failure. LSO calls for "Wing lights," which were lost due to the electrical malfunction (unknown to LSO). Expeditious emergency procedures for an electrical failure to regain lost electrical buses were completed while performing demanding tasks involved in landing a jet aboard the pitching deck of an aircraft carrier at night.
"Where do we get such men? They leave this ship and they do their job. Then they must find this speck lost somewhere on the sea. When they find it, they have to land on its pitching deck. Where do we get such men?" |
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A Fly By Of Some Of The US Navy/Marine/Air Force Aircraft Of Desert Storm
Air Force
A-10 Warthog
B-1B Lancer
B-52 Stratofortress
C-5 Galaxy
C-130 Hercules
C-141 Starlifter
E-3 Sentry (Awacs)
E-8 JStars
EF-111 Raven
F-111 Aardvark
F-4 Phantom (Wild Weasel)
F-15 Eagle
F-16 Falcon
F-117 Knighthawk
OV-10 Bronco
KC-135 Stratotanker
KC-10 Extender
Navy/Marines
A-6 Intruder
A-7 Corsair II
C-2 Greyhound
E-2 Hawkeye
EA-6B Prowler
F-14 Tomcat
P-3 Orion
S-3B Viking
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AH-1W Cobra
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This is a short clip. The entire film is 90 minutes. For more details go to http://www.militaryvideo.com/store/store.cfm
This video includes three films detail the training of carrier pilots in the1960s and 1970s. Scenes include USS Lexington (CV-16), USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69), and clips of the following aircraft: T-34 Mentor, F-11 Tiger, E2C Hawkeye, F-14 Tomcat, A-6 Intruder, A7A Corsair, EA6B Prowler, S3A Viking, and SH3H Sea King helicopter. |
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Add'l info added 4/23/08 aircraft ID'd as S2 Tracker.
video was sent to me a couple years ago in an email - looked like a scary takeoff to me...but at least ultimately successful? |
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After watching a Squishy Bearz episode in which the Bearz become endangered by a crashing A-6 Intruder fighter-bomber, Eek gets conked on the noggin and finds himself in the land of Toodlesnook, saving the Bearz from various dangers. |
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You want high tech? 2 American pilots down a sleek jet in their prop powered POJs. Skyraiders job was to supress ground forces for rescue choppers, not tangle with jet Migs, but there you have it. Near as I can tell, A-1 shot down more MiGs than the A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder, F-100, F-104 and F-111 combined (I think a total of zero)
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The A-1 still flies in spirit - its replacement was the AX / A-10 Warthog.
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The Black File 7001 summary report primarily speaks to the clandestine torture experiment shrouded within the Federal Witness Protection Program that has psychologically and physically tortured Lee Vin Bah since 1999. However, when the Black File 7001 book has been completed, some of the other stories that will be included are: Lee Vin Bah's family fighting back against fascism in Northern Italy and Europe before their journey to America. The mention of noteworthy achievements made by members of Lee Bin Bah's family, their teachings, inventions, and how relatives finding gold on their cattle ranch in California led to his great-great grandfather's cousin becoming the founder of the Bank of America. Lee Vin Bah will share his experiences as an Italian Jewish child attending private Catholic schools and how his Catholic female lay teacher in second grade use to fondle his sexual genitalia in a large walk-in closet. The successful penetration of three of the largest organized crime groups in the U.S. The counter terrorism activities before and after nine eleven and a standing order from then U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno to neutralize criminal targets at Bah's discretion. The hallmark event in Bah's lifetime of locating an imported Nazi SS War Criminal living in the United States of America and that vermin's suspected exportation to Israel. A source in the U.S. Secret Service revealing that George H.W. Bush tested an EMP or Electro Magnetic Pulse Weapon on New York City from a specially refitted military A-6 Intruder jetfighter bomber, which knocked out all emergency communications and the entire power grid that was subsequently blamed on a power company engineer. The underwater world of a younger Lee Vin Bah and the various environmental crimes that continue to destroy the planet. The unearthing of the U.S. Government's buried bones, which has caused Lee Vin Bah to be tortured, politically persecuted through actionable offenses and passively sanctioned for assassination by those within the shadow government. As much as Lee Vin Bah does not want the truth to sound stranger than a lie, the shadow government within the U.S. infrastructure is a syndicated conglomerate of global corporatists that perpetuate the medium of war for the military industrial complex with components that actually stem from the evolutionary foundations, genocidal formulas, and buttressing principles of the Nazi SS. |
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Very special clip of a tour around the MAF static park - part 1 - from 1982. Starts with B17 and P51 then we tour the exhibits on a dull afternoon as the USAF exhort visitors to leave secertely filmed from the back of the Foggitmobile, we get up close with Tornados, Intruders and what not. |
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Sometimes, there've been incidents caught on tape that are so unusual you'll want to say; what the f*** happened? This A6 fails to catch the wire on an aircraft carrier, both pilots bail out - and the plane continues to fly.... |
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Flight Operations ffrom January 26, 1992 onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. Shot while I served in the US Navy as a videographer in the Public Affairs Office. Copyright 2008. snapabraham@sbcglobal.net |
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Sandglass Patrol:Rolling Thunder & Co
Doble video musical sobre aparatos americanos en Vietnam. |
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Chapter 23 of 0 - July 10, 1985 - Electronic interferrance causes the video to distort but you can still see the A-6 Intruder aircraft taking off from the Flight Deck.
*Before a ship goes out to sea for 6 to 7 months, the Captain has to "shake out" the ship and it's crew, to find out if they are ready for the deployment at sea. |
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Chapter 22 of 0 - July 10, 1985 - Electronic interferrance causes the video to distort but you can still see the A-6 Intruder aircraft taking off from the Flight Deck.
*Before a ship goes out to sea for 6 to 7 months, the Captain has to "shake out" the ship and it's crew, to find out if they are ready for the deployment at sea. |
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Im reuploading this vid about USN F-18..Hope this time will not be removed.(Music:3 doors down-Kryptonite (c)Universal Music.The Boeing (formerly McDonnell Douglas) F/A-18 Hornet is a modern all-weather carrier-capable strike fighter jet, designed to attack both ground and aerial targets. Designed in the 1970s for service with the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps, the Hornet is also used by the air forces of several other nations. It has been the aerial demonstration aircraft for the Blue Angels since 1986. Its primary missions are fighter escort, fleet air defense, suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD), interdiction, close air support and reconnaissance. Its versatility and reliability have proven it to be a valuable carrier asset, though it has been criticized for its lack of range and payload compared to its contemporaries. A version exported to Finland and Switzerland without ground attack capabilities is called the F-18 Hornet.
The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is a distinct, evolutionary upgrade to the F/A-18 designed to serve a complementary role with Hornets in the U.S. Navy.Development of the F/A-18 came as a result of the U.S. Navy's Naval Fighter-Attack, Experimental (VFAX) program to procure a multirole aircraft to replace the F-4 Phantom II, A-4 Skyhawk, and A-7 Corsair II, and to complement the F-14 Tomcat. Vice Admiral Kent Lee, then head of Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR), was the lead advocate for the VFAX against strong opposition from many Navy officers, including Vice Admiral William D. Houser, deputy chief of naval operations for air warfare - the highest ranking naval aviator.In August 1973, congress mandated that the Navy pursue a lower-cost alternative to the F-14. Grumman proposed a stripped F-14 designated the F-14X, while McDonnell | |
